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Trigger warning.

I wrote an article in Strange Horizons. Several people had a meltdown and decided to ensure I would avoid them and their work for the next forever, and I sincerely hope it's mutual. Additionally, several authors, editors, and reviewers I used to have a lot of respect for have pretty effectively convinced me that part of SF fandom may not be meant for me, which is fine. Keep it, folks; it's yours!

There's finally started to be some discussion rather than Twitter fury, but of course I spent all weekend gaping at the Twitter fury that wouldn't stop. I watched the community "defend" authors against a pseudonymous, no-name fan (I'm extremely dangerous and hold a lot of social sway—oh wait), watched my own words used mockingly and retweeted by people being kind to my face (really??? dude, I can still see that shit, you're not subtle), and witnessed yet another fap fest over reviews (this was never meant to be about reviews; intent doesn't matter; the author is dead). I was pretty done as soon as I received the first piece of vile commentary where someone offered to put their dick in my mouth because I was being too mouthy, as you do. BUT HEY, SEXISM IS OVER. This is what people who write in any mainstream capacity put up with (besides the sexism stuff; I know about that part)? I'm exhausted and I can't even. What a shitshow.

Troy from Community walking into the room with pizzas to find everyone on fire.

Strange Horizons is my first mainstream gig. I was always going to go through this. I was prepared! Spoiler: you are never prepared. At the very least, it's been an adventure. My next article is going to be about bunnies. Cute, fluffy, space bunnies. I swear I will find a way to make it work. Niall just started weeping and doesn't know why.

I did want to highlight some awesome things I think came out of this:

1. Fans: You got your fannish preconceptions all over my critic's space — I really, really like this. I disagree with it (our perspectives and how we've experienced the community are so different!), but I like it. :D

2. You Knew This Industry Blogger Wasn’t Going to Keep His Mouth Shut — Justin's opinion, which I admit I wanted from the very beginning. Can I blame him for the original column? It's a little bit his fault, like 5%, but hell, next time, I'm just going to send him an email.

3. Rose Fox's comments in particular on The Book Smugglers post related to this issue, which has a good range of other comments, too (Ana and Thea, I am still so very sorry.).

4. Deloper of the Author — I needed a dictionary for some of this, but it's really fascinating.

5. Authors and Bloggers and Fans, Oh My — Easing my mind that some of my points made it through. Yay. :)

Writing! It's like gambling with your peace of mind. On the plus side, at least you can do it with no pants, which makes up for all the hard parts. Cheers, SF fandom. Cheers.

two adults on a couch toasting each other and then tossing back their drink


Date: 2013-09-17 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No matter the fact that we disagree about this issue, I wanted to step in here and say that the way people are treating other people is DISGUSTING. There is such a thing as disagreeing and staying civil. Hell, I don't have to agree with what anyone says, but I do need to recognize that they are people, with feelings and stuff. The thing is, no matter what I think and feel, I recognize your talent, and your contribution to the SFF genre, and the way people are treating ANYONE who weighs in on this discussion is truly jading me. I thought it was possible to discuss things as adults. I guess not.

Now, a lot of people ARE staying civil. And to be honest, no matter what I think, the genre IS changing (hello, internet) and so is publishing. These are important issues that people are eager to discuss. There are some great points being thrown around that are incredibly thoughtful and insightful. And yes, a lot of these points are making me rethink my initial stance in some ways. That is important. If people are too set in their ways, how is there any progress? That's what I love about discussions. You show me why you feel the way you do. I respond, and your insights invariably impact my response and perceptions of what is happening. It's called the exchange of ideas. Brilliant, really.

But when people start being asshats and stop realizing that you can disagree while doing it in a nice(er) way, then I start getting sick. I've had a lot of terrible email comments, too. Horrible stuff. I feel like screaming, because these really good comments, these thoughtful discussions, the free exchange of ideas that will invariably impact my own perceptions of what is happening, is starting to get buried under so much crap.

Yes, we might disagree, but I tend to disagree with everyone at one time or another. Despite the fact that we come from different perceptions, I recognize that you have a right to your feelings, and I also think that these logical, rational discussions that are happening are very important to the genre, fandom, publishing, etc. There is NO excuse for how some people are treating other people. None. Zip. Period. It's sick. It's wrong. But I am also thankful that people can be adults, too. Much of this has been enlightening, and my opinions have evolved a bit since Sunday, but that's not really important to this post.

Anyway, I just wanted to stop by and tell you that, no matter where you are coming from, I respect you. I recognize your contribution to the genre, and I wish everyone would shut up, sit down, and act like adults.

And I sincerely hope none of this is offensive. That's not my intention.

Date: 2013-09-17 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, um, I'm Sarah from

Sorry, I forgot to add that.

Date: 2013-09-18 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The hell if I know where we disagree, either. It just seems like the cool thing to do these days is disagree with EVERYONE.

Yeah, I think authors are welcome, but I'm also in the camp of, if it's your website, and you pay the bills, you are king/queen of your domain and do whatever the hell you want.

I guess that means that I disagree with everyone? Who knows. All I know is I have some solidarity with you. Stupid bastards and their stupid bastard email. No one deserves this crap. Lets all drink vodka, eat cake, and move the hell on.

Date: 2013-09-20 07:13 am (UTC)
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